Sender: •••@••.••• I agree with Kurt that no single authority should dictate content of the Internet and that no one entity should set prices. The Internet, although I don't understand every aspect of it, seems to be most threatened by big conglomerates setting prices too high for access by all to be feasible. If there are just a few big players controlling access through pricing, and they can price as they please, the only way to control them that has been found (that I am aware of) is government regulation (although boycotts have been known to work in times past, but don't see that happening here). This is simpleeconomics. It seems we are in the middle, slammed between that rock and a hard place: multi-conglomerates and government. The only choice we seem to have is to choose which one we will serve. The only thing that speaks to big business is money. The only thing that speaks to government is a large block of voters. This is simplistic, but true. I have always been suspicious of capitalism because it is fueled by greed; I I am less against government regulation, but can see that it can get out of control, also. I guess that we are stuck in the human condition, having to trust that there is an intrinsic good in all of us. In light of my experience, of who to trust, and I do that out of my own experience, listening to others,ice and most of all trusting my gut. This is why, if I follow any one philosophy, it is that of personal empowerment, while recognizing personal limitations. My gut tells me that I trust government more than big business. I could be wrong. Thanks for listening. Connie Page @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Sender: "Dorothy K. Dean" <•••@••.•••> Subject: Capitalism & Monopolies > Sender: •••@••.••• (Kurt Guntheroth) > > Subject: capitalism and the internet > > "Free market" capitalism has the same advantage as the internet; distributed > control. Nobody makes central decisions about load or content on the > internet. Nobody makes central decisions about price in the market. ----good stuff cut about how government interferes with free market and that's bad---- Huh? Have you ever heard of monopolies? Like THE PHONE COMPANY before the government required that it decentralize. I could name many other examples. You are also assuming complete portablity of goods and services. While that _may_ be true on the internet, it is certainly not true in the real world. That's why a tomato in Alaska costs many times what it does in Georgia at the same time of the year in both places. Monopolies _do_ exist and there are examples of industries approaching monpoly status. Just look at what is happening with daily newspapers. The number is dropping like a rock and more and more are owned by large companies based in another city. Or look at the book publishing business . . . We better guard what we have on the internet with vigor. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Sender: Vigdor Schreibman - FINS <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: PFF Agenda [cr-95/9/4] On Thu, 14 Sep 1995, Cyber Rights wrote: > Sender: •••@••.••• (Kurt Guntheroth) > > Subject: capitalism and the internet > > "Free market" capitalism has the same advantage as the internet; distributed > control. Nobody makes central decisions about load or content on the > internet. Nobody makes central decisions about price in the market. There is no such thing as "free market" capitalim except in the story boards of the propaganda that pumps up support for that BIG LIE. What we have is monopoly capitalism, the current scourge of the world now destroying everything in its range. Vigdor Schreibman - FINS <•••@••.•••> ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~-~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~ Posted by -- Andrew Oram -- •••@••.••• -- Cambridge, Mass., USA Moderator: CYBER-RIGHTS (CPSR) World Wide Web: http://jasper.ora.com/andyo/cyber-rights/cyber-rights.html http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~hwh6k/public/cyber-rights.html FTP: ftp://jasper.ora.com/pub/andyo/cyber-rights You are encouraged to forward and cross-post messages and online materials, pursuant to any contained copyright & redistribution restrictions. ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~-~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~