Sender: •••@••.••• (M.Torres) >Sender: URS GATTIKER <•••@••.•••> >I just wanted to reply to Torres' comment about our survey.... the >Pentagon has nothing to do with it... and the University of German >Federal Forces is an insitution which trains officers but the >professors are all civilians like myself. >Sorry Mr. Torres, your suspicion is unjustified... >Cordially >urs e. gattiker >Research Leader >Privacy Research Project > Thanks for the response. However, I used the Pentagon as an analogy, not to suggest it had anything to do with your research. It was a suggestion that perhaps one might think twice about cooperating with ANY military authority, anywhere, particularly when it comes to privacy issues. The fact that civilians teach at the University of German Federal Armed Forces does not change the military nature and intent of the university. Civilians have been architects of some of our most ghastly war plans, tools, weapons, etc. Try this - Los Alamos/atom bomb; destruction of popularly elected governments in Guatemala, Chile, Grenada, Nicaragua; Third Reich; Armenian holocaust; Tienanmen Square; Bosnia - the list could go on forever. Most of the planners of these gems were civilian, sir - working with their various military forces. You haven't convinced me that one should work with your project -though I'm not sure you have any desire to. M Torres Oakland, CA ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~-~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~ Posted by Andrew Oram - •••@••.••• - Moderator: CYBER-RIGHTS (CPSR) Cyber-Rights: http://www.cpsr.org/cpsr/nii/cyber-rights/ ftp://www.cpsr.org/cpsr/nii/cyber-rights/Library/ CyberJournal: (WWW or FTP) --> ftp://ftp.iol.ie/users/rkmoore Materials may be reposted in their _entirety_ for non-commercial use. ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~-~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~