Introduction by moderator: The following interesting post about the protection of political activity was posted to the telecomreg mailing list, which has a lot of good information (although the number of messages is much higher than on cyber-rights). Courts have ruled that political activists can promote their ideas at shopping malls as if they are public spaces, even though malls are privately owned. However, legislation promoting similar rights on electronic networks was defeated in California after heavy lobbying by the cable industry. The writer of this post covered the issues in a monograph authored for the California State Assembly in 1981, "Access Rights to the Electronic Marketplace" (Office of Research). This document, copies of which may still be available (at least as archival materials in the State Library), became the armature for a near-decade of policymaking and law in California. Andy @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 12:46:10 -0500 Errors-To: •••@••.••• Reply-To: •••@••.••• Originator: •••@••.••• Sender: •••@••.••• Precedence: bulk From: Robert Jacobson <•••@••.•••> To: Multiple recipients of list <•••@••.•••> Subject: Info Services/Carriers as "Shopping Malls" re Pruneyard X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0b -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Requests (UNSUBSCRIBE/HELP) to: •••@••.••• In September the Supreme Court chose not to review a case before the N.J. Supreme Court, in which the latter found that a shopping mall could not prevent political speech on its grounds (although it could impose reasonable rules for that expression). This is the familiar Pruneyard case, brought up to date. The position of the N.J. Supreme Court in the intensity of its opinion (which I have only seen quoted, without indicating the name of the case) echoes that of the California Supreme Court way back when (1976), in the original case. Shopping malls are important centers of commerce and the exchange of opinion (the modern version of the Greek agoura), per the Courts. A similar case can be made for various new media of communication that gather together a cornucopia of services among which the user can wander, or "surf." Interesting analogies. If we choose the wander analogy, the agoura, then cable TV and indeed any of the aggregating information services (like AOL) may be subject to Pruneyard. Even if the less precedential "surf" analogy is employed, at least there must be a lifeguard if the place is frequented by the public, to answer the question of ultimate liability for injuries sustained. This latter is speculative: I favor the agoura analogy, which actually is finding some support in the popular, if not yet the legal, press. This was the basis for a bill advanced in the California legislature in 1981, by Assemblyman Robinson; it was crushed by the cable interests in California, who were all too familiar with Pruneyard. Later, we tried to clarify that electronic communications were equivalent to oral and written speech, via a constitutional amendment. Such vociferous opposition from the bearers of the "information highway" mantle you would not believe. Which calls to mind: isn't a highway, if not a public investment, frequently a toll road -- in which case, it is de facto a common carrier? I just love exuberant communications industry executives. We should revisit this issue often. The terrain is positively liquid. Bob Jacobson Former Staff Director and Principal Consultant, Assembly Utilities and Commerce Committee, CA Legislature, 1981-89 ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~-~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~ Posted by -- Andrew Oram -- •••@••.••• -- Cambridge, Mass., USA Moderator: CYBER-RIGHTS (CPSR) World Wide Web: http://jasper.ora.com/andyo/cyber-rights/cyber-rights.html http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~hwh6k/public/cyber-rights.html FTP: ftp://jasper.ora.com/pub/andyo/cyber-rights You are encouraged to forward and cross-post messages and online materials, pursuant to any contained copyright & redistribution restrictions. ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~-~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~