Dear C-R, Two earlier posts ("building a parallel isochronous Internet" & "Bradley re: isochronous techhie talk") discussed some issues re/developments in net communications technology. Below are some snippets from Allan Bradley's comments, along with two threads from Arun's india-gii list: re/ISDN re/"PLANET 1". My point in encouraging this "net evolution" thread is to build a better understanding of the cyber future from an other-than-political perspective: What will Cyberspace II be like?... How will it be implemented?... How will it be priced?... How might it co-evolve with Internet?... Will Internet die like the horse and buggy, or rejuvinate like optical media? (Again, forgetting momentarily the political angle.) -rkm --- Allan Bradley wrote: >...I believe now there will be to two >categories of switched connectivity and will be allocated on a platform by >platform basis. Which is fine because both are needed for different >markets >...The Telecom Bill transport fairness rules are based on old vertical market >allocation, when the real money will be in horizontal market bandwidth >distribution. That is the monopoly danger. That is why I harp on defining >the models. If you have the money for the technology, you have the huge >advantage in the market. > >My concern is that schools, public services, city communities may get the >short end of the stick, because it is a distribution bandwidth market and >they need cheap bandwidth and that could lower market margins. The >investment cost in these technologies today is very high. The problem is >that regulations need to include bandwidth distribution and not exclusively >physical distribution as the basis of universal access/distribution. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 From: Arun Mehta <•••@••.•••> To: "Multiple recipients of list •••@••.•••" Subject: Cable modem v/s ISDN Could our Department of Telecom have wited too long to introduce ISDN? Just when it is becoming obsolete? > ISDN VS. CABLE MODEMS > After years of neglecting ISDN, Baby Bells are finally beginning > to use a consumer-oriented approach to the marketing of ISDN > services -- but industry observers say it's probably too little, > too late. "I think it's time to write the obituary on ISDN," > says a Gartner Group analyst. "Nice launching, wrong airport. > It's time to turn the page and move on," he notes, referring to > the cable companies' plans to offer high-speed, high-capacity > access for a fraction of ISDN's costs. (Wall Street Journal 23 > Jan 96 B7) This was picked up from Edupage. Arun @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 From: "Rajesh P. S." <•••@••.•••> To: "Multiple recipients of list •••@••.•••" Its not clear how the ISDN vs. Cable modem battle is going to shape up. ISDN (despite its non-widespread use) is a technology that has been in place for a long time. However, there was an article in the NY Times a couple of weeks ago stating that PAC Bell was having problems making money with its ISDN offering and had filed for increased rates. The current rates that are being offered (for ISDN) in the BAY area is very reasonable. Cable modem technology on the other hand have been largely untested and I have heard reports of `teething' problems in places where they have been implemented. The other thing to remember that if I am not mistaken the high speed, high capacity that the above analyst is referring to is a shared capacity, i.e., if there are number of cable users logged in at the same time the actual capacity available to each user will be much smaller. Arun: I would be interested in knowing what the DOT's plans as far as offering ISDN is concerned. Further, do you have any statistics on what percentage of househoulds (at least in the metros) in India have cable access. Also are there are private ISP (Internet Sevice Providers) or is the DOT /VSNL the only provider. Rajesh @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 From: Arun Mehta <•••@••.•••> To: "Multiple recipients of list •••@••.•••" Subject: Re: Cable modem v/s ISDN (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 From:•••@••.••• Subject: Re: Cable modem v/s ISDN I really think that what the Gartner Group is saying today will apply sometime in the future. The reality is what the first part of the message says - ISDN is being implemented today. Period. The press and the analysts, in my experience talk about things that take some time to materialize. It takes a lot to implement new technology in a way to make it practical and reasonable for "mass" use. (See how long it has taken ISDN to become a reality - we were implementing ISDN solutions as far back as in 1984 !!) In summary I do not believe the DoT has waited too long. When one introduces new technology what you really need is interoperability to the maximum extent. If DoT had introduced ISDN - say about 5 years ago, it would have had limited usefulness because of a lack of international support in terms of infrastructure. However, today that is less of an issue. Cable modems will come. However, for them to reach the stage ISDN is today - it will be another 5 years. Ofcourse, technology is evolving rapidly, and one can't predict what the real issues are. However, ISDN implementation is defintely not a waste. __________________________ Moderator comments: I'm not sure cable modems will take nearly as long as ISDN to mature. When ISDN was introduced, it seemed to be a solution looking for a problem. Today, with Internet access and the World Wide Web, there is tremendous demand for high-bandwidth connections. So, cable modem development is demand-driven rather than supplier-driven, as was the case with ISDN. Another factor: in India, cable TV is the fastest growing network. Once government monopoly over uplinking goes, that might be the quickest route to spreading Internet services in the country, and possibly much of the 3rd World. Arun @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 From: Arun Mehta <•••@••.•••> To: "Multiple recipients of list •••@••.•••" Subject: Planet 1 (fwd) List members might be interested in the following press release. You would be breaking the law if you used such a system in India, though... COMSAT INTRODUCES PLANET 1 WORLD'S FIRST PORTABLE, GLOBAL PERSONAL SATELLITE COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM PLANET 1 Allows Users to Send and Receive Calls, Faxes or E-mail Anywhere in the World BETHESDA, MD -- COMSAT Mobile Communications today introduced the world's first personal satellite communications (PSC) system, PLANET 1. Available by mid-1996, PLANET 1 terminals will retail for $2,995, with an all-inclusive (fully terminated) charge of $3 per minute (pending FCC approval). The PLANET 1 system integrates cellular and mobile satellite technologies to offer seamless global, personal voice and data communications from a portable, notebook-sized terminal. COMSAT's PLANET 1 terminal, manufactured by NEC, a world leader in electronics, incorporates the functionality of a standard business phone with value-added features such as single-number global roaming, voice/fax mail notification, paging and call-in-absence indicator. In addition to the high-quality digital voice and data capabilities, PLANET 1 will also provide mobile data services such as E-mail, Internet access and short messaging service. "PLANET 1 meets the immediate need for seamless, worldwide personal communications and is the only truly portable, global wireless service available today," said COMSAT President and Chief Executive Officer, Bruce L. Crockett. ~--<snip>--~ Editorial Contacts: Eileen Pacheco Creamer Dickson Basford (617) 467-1576 Judith Pryor COMSAT Mobile Communications (301) 214-3432 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~--~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~ Posted by Richard K. 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