@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 Sender: dave ketchum <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: cr> IP: A Kick in the Flat-Fee Access by Meeks To the extent that the phone companies have a case as to customers hogging bandwidth, they already are in the business of measuring usage and charging the customers who are making the calls. IF it is bandwidth they care about, why do they care whether I am calling my ISP, a long-lost friend, or a pizza shop? Taxing the ISPs would make it more difficult for them to offer the introductory free time that helps potential new users learn what the Internet is good for. It would also put a new burden on ISPs such as mine, that charge a flat rate and therefore have no present need to measure usage time. Finally, not only would they have to pass through to us users the actual tax imposed, they would have to pass through the cost of the extra equipment and bookkeeping required and of any extra audits imposed on them. This would destroy smaller ISPs that would have to charge impossible fees to their few customers. The argument that residential rates are subsidized by business rates should cut no ice in this war - the phone companies consistently claim that their bandwidth problems peak in the daytime, when ISP usage would tend to come from business customers - residential ISP usage should peak in the otherwise lightly loaded evening hours. Side note: It is beyond me how competition fits into the local loop. Our proper demands are that SOMEONE be responsible for having the equipment to provide service to all customers, and not clutter up my street with more than one set of wires. How do competing companies sort out who gets stuck with expensive-to-serve customers and who is responsible for maintaining the cable on my street - and do all this more economically than a single company could? >>From the original: To fight this, a kind of "cybercoalition" is needed, one that would meld the fire and passion of grass-roots users with the money and muscle of our newly minted Net millionaires. I hope you're listening and that the millionaires aren't too busy cashing in their stock options to step into the gap. Your flat-fee access is riding on it. Agreed! Dave Ketchum @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~--~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~ Posted by Richard K. Moore - •••@••.••• - Wexford, Ireland Cyber-Rights: http://www.cpsr.org/cpsr/nii/cyber-rights/ ftp://www.cpsr.org/cpsr/nii/cyber-rights/library/ CyberJournal: (WWW or FTP) --> ftp://ftp.iol.ie/users/rkmoore/cyberlib Materials may be reposted in their _entirety_ for non-commercial use. ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~--~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~